October 5, 2010
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What’s Wrong With Xanga: Part 3,476
I’m fond of saying Xanga is only a website after all. It’s a platform containing programs which make it easy to present one’s thoughts, rants, artistic endeavors, spiritual epiphanies, and joking asides to a large number of people in a small amount of time, and although there are dozens of other websites which essentially do the same thing, the Xanga site has been on the internet for a long time, and has many longtime users who have, through the years, helped the development of the site into a seeming “community”: “the blogging community” as it states to the right of the logo on the front page (www.xanga.com).
Besides the many current server outages (one of which is occuring as I type this on Notepad) and updated program embellishments which sometimes do not seem to enhance but instead hamper the “Xanga Experience”, it can plainly be argued that it might not be “Xanga” with which anything is wrong, but the fault may rest with the “community” of bloggers itself. Those who complain the loudest may in fact be the progenitors of most of the “problems” they feel they encounter with the service. Physician, heal thyself! Xangan, it’s up to you to “fix” what you perceive as “broke.”
The main thing wrong with the Xanga of 2010 is the simple fact that useless, throwaway entries like the one you’re reading right now tend to get instant exposure, lots of recommendations, and dozens of laudatory comments, while the uplifting art and literature entries, which may take hours to prepare, go seemingly unnoticed and unread, perhaps even landing a spot on “top blogs” for a few scant moments, yet overlooked by the majority of Xangans who are trolling their way toward the next useless Xangabashing or “humorous” negative entry extolling how nobody writes quality “stuff” anymore.
Yes, I’ll admit there are some problems with the website itself. I don’t like the Meebo “toolbar” which seems to crash my browser, and display annoying popup ads like those on the banners at the bottom of television programs. I even turned the instant messenger “off”. The toolbar does contain a feature I like, the “quickbrowse” which displays the pages of recent entries from my subscriptions like on a webring. However, there only seem to be 100 entries selected at any given time, and there will be multiple entries on one sub, but no entries displayed for all subs. I have less than 100 subs, so each of those should at least have the last page they updated on the display. But I quibble. There have been lots of server outages lately, with 503 error message screens instead of pages which tell us what’s wrong. At least when something prevented Xanga from being online in the past, I would know why.
Xangans seem to read “Top Bloggers” no matter what they post, and they’ll read “top blogs” which are posted by the rest of us which gain exposure, but they won’t investigate the rest of the blog on which an errant “top blog” post appears. I can only speak from experience, and I’ve conducted some “experimentation” in the last few months. Nothing has been fully researched. I’m just going by instinct and past expericence, which may even be somewhat flawed. These are my observations. I’ll post an entry like my recent “Top Blog Comment String” which doesn’t take all that long to prepare. I’ll get comments telling me that “it must have taken a long time to write this”. I’ll get kudos. Recommends. The entry will stay on top of the “top blogs” page for 24 hours or more. I’ll feel good. I’ll get a swelled head. I’ll attempt to (at least) leave comments on the blogs of those who subscribe or befriend me because of the post. I’ll make sure I return the comments of my “regular readers” who have responded.
For my next post, I’ll select or prepare something more “typical” of my “blogging style”. Although the epithet “fool” is attached to my longtime “signature”, I do not for the most part display humor here on WhenWordsCollide. The next “ElectricPoetry” or “PhotoPost” or “Universal Blog” entry will fall back to my regular “numbers”, getting the requisite 15 or 20 comments from my standard readership. I might pick up one or two new readers from each of the “engineered top blog” entries, but for the most part, as I mentioned above, since I’m not a “top blogger” or “Xangalebrity”, it’s the post itself that was noticed, and not me as a blogger.
I treat each “comment” equally. This may or may not be a fault on my part. I will “return” the favor by visiting the blogger who left the comment (I used to do this with all comments, but I only do it for people who befriend or subscribe for the most part nowadays) read multiple entries, say hello, give thanks, and respond to one or more entries in my own comment. I’ll do this whether someone writes me a small novel or if they post a smiley icon. I sort of get disturbed a bit when these folks don’t return to my blog. I might even recommend one of their posts, and this doesn’t get a thank you or a notice. It amazes me that for all of the talk about “community” I don’t encounter any sense of community amongst a lot of the Xangans I encounter. If I make the effort to drop by and say “hello”, I at least expect a short return visit. After all, you befriended me or subscribed to my blog. If you’re not interested in “striking up a conversation” of some sort, then why did you subscribe in the first place.
I’d like to take this opportunity to tell you that if it was because of that Pop up that asked you to subscribe or befriend, you can turn that sucker off, you know, so it won’t ever appear again when you’re on someone’s blog to which you don’t subscribe or have a “friendship” with. Check “disable” under “Supscription suggestions” in you Subscription Manager.
I honestly don’t think a lot of bloggers know what a link is, let alone how to “make” one. As a blogring leader for Internet Island, I was always “instructing” people how to make links so they could link their topic entry in comments on the Island blog. Sometimes I get the suspicion that there are a lot of bloggers who don’t realize that if text in a blog entry is a different color and is underlined then it is a link to the definition or entry displayed, or otherwise related material to that which they are reading. In point of fact, sometimes I don’t think people even read all of the entries to which they are leaving a comment. I surmise this because I’ll get questions that I’ve already answered in my entry! I litter my posts and comments with appropriate links. I get disgusted when reading a blog entry alluding to something which is not referenced.
Too many of the “top blogs” and a lot of the blog entries in Xangaland are specific “jabs” at other bloggers with whom someone should be having a “private conversation” in messages and not on the public entries. Yet, these are the “popular” posts amongst the Xangasphere. People seem to love “drama”. I’ve written before that these kinds of tete a tetes can cause even longtime bloggers to become disillusioned and upset. That these kinds of blog entries are repeatedly recommended, and people whom the bloggers invloved in the “fight” or “discussion” or whatever don’t even know drop by to get thier licks in. This seems to be a never ending cycle and I wish somebody could just put a bandaid on this sort of exhibitionism.
Why don’t more bloggers use “tags”? I write a multilayered blog which references the many sections on my personal website. In my “tags” section, the most used of which are on the main page of my blog, clicking “ElectricPoetry”, “PhotoPost” or even blogs tagged “Xanga” will take you to a page or selection or pages where all of the entires on that particular subject are presented. When I visit a new blog, and I see a poem, I expect I can find a “tag” for “poetry” or whatever, so I can instantly get to that bloggers poetry entries. For the most part, nobody uses the tags, or else they “overuse” them, “tagging” 50 separate words in a 75 word entry. Tags should be used to identify the types or posts or subjects one blogs about.
I could go on, but I just got into work, and I’ve got a lot of work to do, so Xanga has to go to the backburner of my life for a while. I guess my point, if I have one, is that Xanga puts the tools in place for just about anyone to be able to present their creative side on this service. Instead of complaining (which I guess I just did, but I present lots of stuff on my blog, so as a content provider I can grouse a bit from time to time if I want. To use an oft repeated phrase…..”It’s MY blog, dammit.”) and wasting energy, Xangans can use these tools to become creative themselves. And once the creatiity is unleashed in the Xangasphere, don’t be afraid of interacting a bit. I don’t look for them, but I seem to “stumble” across many blog entries which attempt to describe how newbies here can make top blogs themselves, and almost all of them say to befriend the top bloggers. Seriously, how many fricking “friends” do these top bloggers need to stoke their vast egos anyway? I got a friend request from someone yesterday who has never visited my blog, and has 17,629 Xanga friends. I declined his request, as I have done many times in the past.
My advice is moot, because I’m not a “top blogger”. However, the key to longtime resiliance in Xangaland is to develop a coterie of friends and readers with whom you share more than the fact that you just read one of their entries. We used to utilize the blogrings to search for like minded individuals. I still get some hits from blogrings to which I belong. Leave comments. And not just on the same 10 or 15 “top bloggers” no matter what they write. Find the content, and leave comments letting bloggers know that you are inspired, or moved, or enlightened by their work. Develop conversations which are positve, and not negatively inspired. These can go on for years. Your “group” only needs to be as large or as small as you’re comfortable. I interact with about 70 some Xangans on a pretty regular basis. Sometimes I might feel a bit “overloaded” but not usually. I “make the time” to spend on these blogs, and let me tell you, I work over 50 hours a week sometimes and don’t usually blog on weekends, so I don’t let Xanga run my “real life”. I will sometimes overlook those who don’t regularly interact with me, but try to at least drop by my regular readers’ bloghomes about once a week.
If you visit here, and you see something on my blog which interests you, why don’t you stick around? I invite you to look at more than just the entry to which you might be reading because you saw a comment of mine on another blog you read, or caught one of my “Xanxiety” comics on “top blogs.” Each of we bloggers is a person, with a history, and some of us are creative to boot. I”m noticing some bloggers using the “recommend” feature as they would the “like” feature on Facebook. This isn’t bad. I, for one, love to see recommends, but it sometimes irks me that I’ll get a recommend without a comment. You see, in 2004 I joined Xanga for the comments. I like to write ‘em, and I like to read ‘em. When I see long stretches of time between comments on my blog, that sometimes bothers me.
What’s wrong with Xanga? Nothing much really. Nothing that hasn’t been said or written about at least 3,475 times in the past. As usual, I’m always tempted to write another of these xangacentric entries because of some useless drama I’ve just witnessed or the dearth of comments on one of the entries of mine I thought would be a lot more popular than it became in actuality, while shaking my head at some entry which stayed at the top of top blogs forever and I didn’t understand why. Yet, I’ll attempt to be positive. I’ve been in full creative mode for a couple of months now, and have seen a lot of my more creative attempts get noticed by more than just my regular group. I’m meeting new Xangafolk all the time. Xanga is “smaller” than at almost any time since I’ve been here, and I hope to meet more and more bloggers who represent the “top” instead of just reside there because they’ve got Xangalebrity status.
End. Of. Rant.
Comments (33)
I feel xanga is what you make it. To get friends (if that is your goal) you should be a friend, read and comment on other blogs. Thanks for a very thoughtful and well written post….My Friday Funnies feature always gets more comments than my more serious posts, oh well.
Take care MikeMike
First off, I’m the first comment on here! I feel honored! (Although by the time I type this out, there will probably be 3 or 4 ahead of me! I get frustrated too with all the pains and aches that Xanga is going through. I wish that they would get rid of all the junk they’ve added and go back to the good old basics of blogging, without commercials and popups and all that other jazz.
I’m with you on people visiting my site and not commenting. I thrive on comments and on smiley faces! Here’s one for you Mike! :) (I had to do my own cause Xanga was having one of its “aches” and not responding!)
Ah, but Mike you have to get the commentary shorter, or your readers might not stick with ya.
Actually, I have seen some changes during the time I have been here, and some have distracted rather than add to the experience. Yet, I’m glad someone else can gather information and make those choices. The rest of us enjoy finding a place to express our views, or works of creativity, and see what others are doing as well. And that is good.
@heart_beep -
I like your idea.
Your rant is good. You’ve brought up some good points.
I don’t like the drama here on Xanga. I try to stay out of that and just post what’s on my heart or mind. I vacillate between serious life stories from my past, to silly goofy stuff.
I enjoy your posts and try to stop by when I see you have something new up. I like the variety you share and l like your writing style.
And, I gotta’ say…you always leave such good, thoughtful comments on my posts. I appreciate that. ‘Cause my posts are not always worthy of comments.
I read all of this. =D
And that is the most educated rant I have ever read on here; hands down. =]]
Dear Mike,
I think you make a lot of good points, but I think you (and everyone bemoaning the “loss of the xanga ‘community’”) are missing something fundamental about communities–they have their bad parts too. The “community” feel of interaction and friendship has the inevitable flipside of the “drama” that goes on. I do, however, think that your conclusion holds true: The only way to “fix” xanga is to follow Ghandi’s directive, and be the change we wish to see in this world. For it is a world–full of people of all shapes, sizes, colors, beliefs, dreams and goals, and therefore pettiness and greatness and beauty and ugliness all at the same time, just like the outside world.
Just my two cents.
–Khai
I enjoyed this, and your advice is certainly not moot! Anyone with an ounce of brains can see you’re making complete sense here
Also: I love tags. Always use them. I have like a bajillion tags.
@adamswomanlost - your posts are always worthy of comment.
I find a lot, that I will read through some blogs and subscribe to them, and add as a friend. I never subscribe unless I am going to actually go back and read more. I find that a lot of people accept my friend request but never come to view my blog, or a few times I have had people befriend me and not subscribe to me.
I find it very odd, but in a way it doesn’t really bother me. I’m thankfull to the few people who take the time to read my blog (however simple and unprofound it may be) and I always make sure to read their blogs in return.
I like to go through the “recent posts” rather than the “top blogs” (although I do go through the top blogs as well) and find interesting blogs which a lot of people seem to overlook. I have gained a few subscribers who leave really nice comments on my post, and I always do the same in return. This makes me pleased, therefore I have began to overlook the copious amounts of people who do not take the time to even view my main page, let alone read my blog.
I have to admit I am guilty of recomending a post and not leaving a comment, once or twice. But it was mostly because I really enjoyed reading it, but I am also somewhat of a simpleton and could not come up with a decent comment. I usually try to at least say “that was really good” though.. or something along those lines.
Anyways I really agree with everything you said. You make many good points.
@quodmenutriut - sometimes you leave me speechless
@TexasTidbits - I hope that’s in a good way.
Glad I followed Khai’s rec. There’s a point to xanga’s technical problems other than the obvious afterall, because I learned something new today, too! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. The first for me; the 3,476 time for others.
this comment is gratuitous because I recommended this bitch
I’ll be happy when you’re as popular as you deserve to be
and stop all this stressing about it
@TexasTidbits - You are sweet!
I’m YOUR biggest fan, you know. 
Good points, well thought out as always. I’ve not been around much recently and what little I have I’ve not had the desire to be very involved.
I think in the past two weeks I may have posted twice….I have visited and invited quite a few people with which I think I have something in common. But my readership pretty much stays the same. I have decided not to research for blogs anymore. I was spending nights sometimes until the sun came up and I am just too old for that…so I will write the simple stuff an occasional opinion and go from there. I will continue doing research but for myself and if someone gets interested and asks me I might consider more for that one time. I don’t want to be in top blogs….if some day I am then it just happened to be my day…no biggie.As for all the little gadgets like tags I suppose i will learn as I go along…last week I learned to put a link with one word in my text. Maybe it is similar for a comment…I will figure it out on a need to know basis.
Yeah Mike, you make some good points. I’m still new to this and learning the site. I’ve been busy so I’ll have to check back and keep reading your posts. Always like e that you write as though we are having a conversation.
Hope that one of the top dogs at xa read your post Mike. I’ve left several comments on the Xanga site in the past couple of years about how taking care of the basics should be important, and how all the new extras seem to bog it down. It certainly has been having a lot of server problems lately.
There is a _huge_ difference between top blogs and what I consider to be top quality. After almost five years on xa I still have no “friends”, and only 35 subscriptions, about ten of which I subbed to recently and are still in a trial period til i decided if they’re worth continuing to read. The drama? No thanks.
Dear Michael,
Where would I be without your points?
Here’s looking at you…kid!
Ann
I never use tags. All my entries are either about a) basketball, b) football, c) hopeless romanticism or d) something so random it would defy categorization anyway. People who actually read me pretty much know what to expect at this point I think, haha.
Good advice.
I think there are only a small handful of people who add every Xanga account to get site traffic (there are only three names that pop into my head off of the bat). My site generally is on the top blogs, but I don’t consider myself a Xangalebrity – I just happen to have a lot of people who I regularly talk with here.
Comments are the best part of Xanga. Replying and commenting really is the best way to Xanga I feel. I have about 400 friends on here, and talk to almost all of them regularly (other than the ones that are hybernating). Having 18,000 friends just sounds like too much work, it’s taken long enough.
Even with the regular front pagers, it does seem like at least a few good ones pop up every day. I actually kind of like Xanga’s “Top Blog” idea. Before that they had the featured posts, which seemed to be a lot of the same people anyway. Blogrings and metros were nice, but since the site has declined in popularity, they’re pretty unimpressive now. I suppose as long as there’s a way to interact with other Xangans, I don’t really care too much how the site is set up.
Good point
What are you gonna do? There is no other place like Xanga, so we just have to put up with it.
It seems as if the rant is at least getting some exposure. LOL, your blog entries usually about 100 times more comments than my best entry so in my eyes you are as much a top blogger than any of the other top bloggers. I think top bloggers have their place and they do take the effort of regular interaction…putting the finger on “hot” issues. I think I could do more of those myself but what is the use getting lots of comments and I am not writing about the things that concerns me. I can pretty successfully predict the amount of comments I will get on a topic before posting it. My whole blog will not feel like mine. We all need to use our blogs for the purpose we set out for them. I use tags religiously despite the new search capability that was added. My blog is not layered but it helps met to see what the topics are that I write most about.
In any case Mike. Part of being with Xanga is getting to know bloggers like you who build up quality blog communities to support them. Keep working at it…I am honoured to be part of your subscribers.
I like your general point of view about Xanga. I’ve been here since 2002. I rarely read the top blogs and don’t pay any attention to all of that, although I do appreciate people who have moderate to excellent writing skills (which include correct spelling, grammar, and sentence structure) Call me old fashioned. And I certainly have slipped enough times and made enough mistakes, but I do care.
I don’t think that many of the “improvements’ have really improved Xanga. It makes me wonder how young the people are that run this thing.(No offense, I love young people, my children are young people) In my mind it is not a popularity contest. I do, however, appreciate an exchange of thoughts and ideas and a comment every now and again.
The new skin thing or whatever it is called, drives me crazy.(I know, it isn’t that new anymore) I much preferred the old way of setting up my page. I have tried and tried but I just plain don’t like it. So I bumble along and try not to get too distracted.
Xanga needs to quit trying to be like Facebook. They are two totally different things. At least in my world.
Very wise words indeed Mike and as usual, always a pleasure to visit your site. I haven’t been taking Xanga too seriously lately, other duties have arisen so I’ve been sort of AWOL.
I’m going to keep some of your recommendations and tips in mind though. Adding links to certain things is one thing I’m sometimes forgetful about and I’ll make a point of remembering that. Xanga was the first blogging site I tried when I finally bought a PC. I remember my first day here, I tried to copy and paste photos into the comment boxes! I figured that little error out – now I’ll work on creating proper links.
Well that was quite the rant!
I agree, I love comments as well. I love to interact with other people and know they enjoy my posts. But the popularity gets the best of some people. That’s kinda life though, isnt it?
Thanks for visiting my page. I look forward to reading your blogs.
couldnt say what wrong with xanga…..i cant find my privacy settings page anymore tho…..i think they really dont need to entertain pornographers with the x rated stuff tho..i mean its not like they’re getting advertisers because of it..
rant on macduff!!
yup.
Your commentary on Xanga and its “problems” was very interesting. You know, I don’t know anything about “top bloggers” and don’t really care to know, I guess. Basically, all I have time to do, other than post my own blog which is time consuming even when it’s cut and pasted, is to check in on the subs who are faithful visits to me. They have priority. I do check in with one or two others who do not comment on my site just because I like their blogs. I don’t “friend” everyone who sends me an invite if I don’t know them or if I don’t see that we have any kind of mutual interest. I think one of the neat experiences with Xanga is that because of our connections, I have been able to meet 2 bloggers in person.
My blog was intended to be eclectic, although I often feature devotional or inspirational material. Basically, I want to put on it whatever I choose to at the time. I don’t feel the need to follow a theme or to post on some “hot topic”. That may be why I don’t have more readers/commentors, but I’m OK with that.
Your Comments: It seems to me every time I check your site, you’ve got a whole lot of them, regardless of the nature of your blog. But your experiment may be more accurate than what I perceive when I get here. BTW, I’m having to catch up with blog reading today because I was gone for the weekend. I got around to doing my own blog on Sunday, but I didn’t have any more time than that. Blog s’plains why.
Tags: I used them when I first began on Xanga, but then got out of the habit of tagging. I didn’t see much use in them. I’m glad you explained what they are for. That doesn’t necessarily mean I’ll go back to them much, but maybe if I include my poetry again, I will.
It is irritating when Xanga goes down and apparently it has happened more frequently lately. Another blogger and I think it is because of interaction with Facebook and the addition of extra features. Sometimes, when there are too many changes at once, there are more “bugs” to contend with.
~~Blessings ‘n Cheers
Mike,
I read this yesterday, and would have commented, except Xanga was being odd and wouldn’t let me sign in. So I’m commenting today, so you won’t think I’m some random stranger.
I agree with you completely. Some of the issues are with the site itself, but many of them are with the users. I don’t completely understand the difference between a “friend” and a “subscriber,” and I think that everyone has different definitions. Some people friend everyone (even if they never actually read their blogs) and some people only subscribe and never friend. I recently got a friend request from someone who admitted on a blog that he was going to send out a friend request to every person who visited his blog. He never had any intention of going to any of the other blogs in return. So what kind of “friend” is that? It made me not want to visit his blog again, even if something of his was recommended by one of my subscriptions.
I think I’ve used tags correctly. I try to remember to tag anything I write with whatever the subject is (and most of them are tagged as “random,” because most of them are random thoughts), as well as with whomever or whatever else I am discussing.
Personally, I don’t care if I have 5,000 “friends” or subscribers, or if I have two or three. I try to read those I’m subscribed to on a regular basis, and I will make any extra effort to give meaningful comments to people who give me comments. I never go on the main page, so I don’t even know what’s on “Top Blogs,” but go directly to my subscription page. I’d rather have a handful of friends and subscriptions than a billion people who only comment because it’s the thing to do.
You’re real Mike, I like this about you.
I’m just starting up here, and, from what you’ve just expressed above so impressively, I can see how I already could start very bad habits. For example I’ve just written “Self-preservation through education”, and I hadn’t used any tags to pull references to support the subject, essentially because I pulled solely from my own experience, which, until now, I thought was sufficient. IMAO
At any rate, I will read more than just this one blog of yours, for I believe that there is much I could learn from you from an array of things you appear to know. I love learning.
I very much want to friend and subscribe; I want to very much interact within your blog circles.
Have a good rest of your day, Mike.