September 19, 2009
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Socrates Cafe: "Living the Good Life"
Recently I was going over some of my past blog entries. As a writer, I often like to read my own stuff, and as a longtime Xanga blogger, it's amazing to realize that I don't even remember writing some of the stuff about which I've blogged over the years until I see it again and have that subtle and sometimes amazing moment of recognition. Last time out, I visited a topic from the first particpatory blogring I joined in 2005: Featured Grownups. Today I visited the second participatory blogring I joined, The Socrates Cafe. (A few commented on the last entry that they'd forgotten all about "blogrings" with the advent of so many other changes on Xanga over the past years. I'm not sure whether the "participatory sites" even need a "blogring" nowadays. I'm sure the moderators of these groups, who have noticed a paucity of participation of late, would love participants, if they belong to the actual blogring or not. I can't speak for them personally of course, but each blogring has it's own Xanga site. The blogsite for Socrates Cafe is HERE.
I can still remember being asked by then group leader Simone de Beauvoir (site still online but not active) to join the Socrates Cafe blogring and site.
Here is the "statement of purpose" from 2005: "Socrates Café® “is meant to be a thoughtful and reflective philosophical sharing. . . Each participant must desire to cultivate the capacity to become a more careful listener. . . It is meant to provide a refreshing and exhilarating alternative to the way many groups engage . . . and to cultivate new habits of discourse in which the primary purpose is to inspire each person to cultivate and discover a unique point of view. . ."
In Sept. 2006, present moderator Dick ( tychecat) took over running the group and has been active ever since. As with FG, I've seen the activity level of this particpatory group decline, and it's a shame, because esp. now, as I read a lot of blatantly aggressive one sided comments on some of the more "politically themed" blog entries around Xanga, I feel a need for true "Socratic discourse", where by asking questions instead of stating opinions, hopefully, opposing sides will be able to come to a consensus, instead of just blindly keep repeating talking points. (It just occured to me that perhaps the Socrates Cafe SHOULD be utilized now more than ever. Perhaps readers of this blog might "recommend" this post, and maybe we can reignite interest in the Socrates Cafe particpatory blogring.) I admit that I'm a longtime member and I haven't participated in ages. I hope to remedy this beginning with the post you are reading right now!
"Socrates" writes this statement of purpose in the sidebar to the present blogsite:
"This is an open forum where topics are supposed to be discussed rationally while respecting the opinions of those who might disagree with you. This forum does not allow the deletion of comments to your posts, even though you may be in complete disagreement. The idea is that such comments will either reinforce your opinion, or open you to new ideas about it and perhaps help you to adjust it to one showing more understanding. The exception to this is Flaming or blatant personal attack, which the Cafe will not tolerate. Such remarks should be brought to the attention of a board member so that they can be documented and the flamer banned from the site. Please abide by this simple rule."The current "discussion" is of a more "personal" nature, the title of which is "Living the Good Life". I began participating this morning by visiting the sites which have posted, and after reading, supplying a list of "Socratic Questions". Tonight, I am presenting my own entry concerning the topic.
"How about a discussion of our personal situations: A. What part of your life is the most satisfactory? Why?, B.What aspect of your life do you dislike most? Why?, C. What part of your life needs major improvement? How are you going to improve your life?
A. What part of your life is the most satisfactory? Why?
I've written extensively in the past few months about the changes I've undertaken this year. The part of my life which I deem most satisfactory is twofold.1. I'm stabilizing myself financially after a four year slide into hell. After 14 years living with a roommate who eventually died of cancer, and finding myself in the strange situation of having to find a new place after so long, I began the year 2009 by purchasing a mobile home for only $39,000.00, so with space rent and mortgage, I'm paying a little more than I was for my half the rent on the previous house. I've complained about my finances on this blog for many years, after having dug myself into my own hole by flying around the country on my "internet lovesearch" in 1999 and 2000, and attending the Consumer Electronics trade show in Las Vegas in 1999-2002 using credit cards, and racking up unbelievable credit card debt. Recently, as I reported in my August 11th blog entry I was able also to implore the Bank of America, with whom I owe $32,000.00, to recalculate my loan, which had been set at 17.99 percent interest, to a 4.5 percent rate, which means I should be completely debt free by the age of 61, in five years. Interesting that five years ago, I began thinking about moving into a senior mobile home park, and I accompllshed that, so if I'm careful, and stay as frugal as I am now, I shouldn't have any more money problems after this next "five year plan" passes.
2. Also about five years ago I began having more pain than usual in my left hip, and though my own doctor kept telling me it was "normal", in 2008 I asked to see an orthopaedic specialist, who related that my 16 year old hip replacement prosthesis had finally worn out. He showed me my xrays, which I posted on this blog, showing literal "loose screws" in my hip. I had the operation to repair the hip prosthesis this past June, and have been keeping up an exercise regiment, as well as attempting to eat more "healthy", and I feel better than I have in years.
B.What aspect of your life do you dislike most? Why?
This is another twofold aspect.1. I've been single for far too long. Again, on this very blog, I've written extensively about my various girlfriends and relationships throughout my life. My longest running and still unfinished series of essays is "My Sexual History". I'm planning to write another novel sized reminiscence about my high school years, to replace my long dormant "Virtual Pantherama" high school yearbook website on AllThingsMike, my personal website. As memory swirls around me, and I begin to sense the emotional and tactile experiences of having someone special in my life, most recently my ex girlfriend Liz, with whom I connected first on Xanga in 2004, I feel an empty hole where a relationship should be. My lone longterm live in relationship, with Pat (about which I write in the "Dear Misantrhope: My Life With Pat" series of essays) was a hellish experience, and I knew I'd made a mistake with her the minute I moved in. I spent the next three years attempting to forge a life with her, but she afforded me the exit line I was looking for when she began cheating on me. I used to tell people I felt as if being extricated from the relationship was like being freed from prison. In point of fact, looking back with the 20/20 vision of hindsight, it was being freed of my relationship that caused me to start spending all that money I didn't have in the late 90s and early Aughts. Now that I'm finally settled and in relatively good health, I do feel incredibly alone at times. At least when living with a roommate, even during the bad times, I had someone around with which to converse. I sometimes wonder if I'll never fall in love again. Speaking as a poet, who has written many love poems, this is a really sad state of affairs. Especially at my age.
2. My creativity has lapsed to the point that I'm watching entirely too much TV (although I program all my own entertainment, thanks to DVDs, streaming media from Netflix and DirecTV, and my ever present DVR (digital video recorder). There always seems to be so much to see that I'm never bored in life, but I do miss my "photo expeditions" and "trips around town". I can't afford to spend money I don't have anymore, so my frugality is keeping me at home most of the time. Summer has afforded me the opportunity to relax out by the pool, so I do feel as if I'm 'vacationing' during the weekends when I'm off work, but I feel a need to get out and about again, and stave the creative juices. I love photography, and I love making my "MikeVideos". This year has been so full of changes that I stopped doing some of the creative things I've enjoyed doing for years. I posted a new poem the other day, and didn't get too many "comments" on the post, so lack of reciprocal admiration is stifling my creative juices somewhat. (I do recognize that I should be incredibly thankful for the comments I have received, both here and on Facebook.)
C. What part of your life needs major improvement? How are you going to improve your life?
See 1 and 2 above. The parts of my life which need improvement are exactly those parts which I dislike. I don't feel as if I'm "failing" in any endeavor in which I find myself participating. I find that I want to participate more. It's so easy to fall into routines, and before one knows it, those routines become the cycle of one's life. I enjoy my little kitchen, and preparing my own meals, but I miss eating out. I enjoy my 60" entertainment behemoth (it's not just a "television") but I wish I had someone with whom to share the experience. I like to come home from work, and to relax and take a nap, but sometimes I think I take too many naps, and I'm wasting my life away.How am I going to improve this life of mine? I really don't know right now, and I'm taking it easy coming up with any quick answers. In the past, I would whip out a credit card and do something stupid. I'd go out, have a great time, and not think about the regrets or the future implications. I did that too many times, and then I'd hear that little devil on my shoulder whisper, "Well, you just spent so and so amount, why not just spend a little more? You only live once." I have to pay off my hospital bill now. I just got the formal letter telling me to pay "$2900.00 in full". I will hopefully be able to set up a payment schedule. (Interesting side note. The total amount of the operation is $130,498.91. I haven't received an itemized account. I'm SO thankful to my employer for our health insurance. Even in this shaky economy, we have not had to bear any more burden than our $1000.00 yearly deductable plus the 20 or so percent of the bill each participant has to pay. Three grand seems like a pittance when you look at the total! I couldn't have afforded the operation at all if I didn't have healthcare insurance, so if any of my employers are reading, thanks again and again.)
Life is tied into finances, health, and welfare. I think the finances are going to even out. My health seems to be getting better. My welfare is solid. I want to reignite my creative urges. I want to socialize more. I'd like to get out and about. Right now, these wishes are just that. I won't force myself to do things that I simply can't afford anymore. All my wishes will soon come true. A great fear is that I'm aging. I really never thought about aging much in the past, except with a wink. I think the recent loss of Joel (Cancerboy) in 2008 and the loss of our CEO Jack at work, who is revovering from a debilitating stroke (at age 85) has awakened my psyche to the perils of mortality. Both universally and personally. Right now, as I sit typing this essay into the word processor before posting to Xanga, I'm realizing that the best answer to the question of how to improve life is to just keep on living it. To keep on facing the daily challenges. To enjoy the good things. To ignore the inconsequential things. And to overcome the negative things. Time will keep on ticking, and life will go on, even after my own mortality ends, so there's nothing much to do otherwise.
For now, I'll concentrate on the "improvements" which have happened, and ponder the "improvements" which might happen, and keep dreaming, and wondering, as I have since childhood, about what positive things I can experience and perhaps cause, in the course of the life I'm leading.Michael F. Nyiri, poet, philosopher, fool


Comments (52)
Excellent post, Mike! Sounds like you have gained a great perspective!
Optimisim is the key to living, I think. You sound very optimisitic. This is good. It's a funny thing.....I was divorced in July of '08 after 17 years of marriage. In the months leading up to the divorce being final, I was obsessed with finding my next wife. I had to be on track to being married again by the time I was "officially" divorced. Once the divorce was actually final it was like God just flipped a switch, and now I have no desire for female companionship at all. All I want to do is work, be as good a Dad as I can be to my daughters, and do some writing and music making. All of my "physical" desires are still there, but I just want nothing to do with relationships, and I don't think that's going to be changing anytime soon. It's funny how things work out.
Anyway, your post got me thinking. Have a great weekend and see ya soon.
I agree with flatpick46. I like your optimism, and it's contagious. I'm glad you're better now.
I came here on a recommendation and I'm glad. This is a wonderful post, well written and certainly thought provoking.
We need more philosophers like you in Xanga.
well written, Mike. keep on dreaming and wondering!
Thanks for the Socrates_cafe plug Mike. I think the time has come when we can be both philosophical and current - God knows, we here in the US badly need to start thinking instead of just shouting.
IMHO, one way to start this is to evaluate our own life and attitudes and see how this influences our world view.
If you check my latest comment at my post, you see I sound kind of smug and self-satisfied. Actually I know very well exactly how fortunate I have been, and like many others of my generation (Yes, I'm part of the "Great Generation") who grew up during the great depression and WW2 and who have seen and lived through the struggles and strains and glory and growth of the past 80 years; have come to very much appreciate our life changes.
Keep on Truck'en
I agree! Very optomistic and enjoyable to read post. It's good to stop and take inventory occasionally. It can be so very easy to get dragged down in the daily drone for existence that we lose sight of the small joys in life. A lack of creativity has been an issue for me as well. I'm chalking it up to expending more energy on work and family, leaving less "me" time. It's temporary, I know, but something I need to work harder at.
But, anyway, thanks for thought prodding post!
As always, Mike, your posts are very inspiring. I'm glad I've come to know you as much as possible, and hope you remain a part of this community. (Not that I have any reason to believe you might leave...)
Hi Mike
Looks like we're both coming back home to Xanga. I don't know if I will ever be debt free; I have gotten there a couple of times and then something happens again. I think quality of life is a state of mind to some degree.
Hi Mike,
It does not surprise me that we both returned to Xanga at this time.
The states of affairs in the world today are unprecedented and without people waking up and voicing their opinions we are going to be mere spectators to a very unpleasant situation.
I don’t know if Xanga is the best forum from which to proceed as so many intelligent people have seem to have vanished but I will write a bit and see how it goes. What are your thoughts on this? Is it time to branch out and find other blog sites that reach more people?
One thing happened last week that kinda woke me up. It appears that a tremendous amount of people gathered in Washington to protest their dissatisfaction with the administration. Apparently it was associated with the Tea party movement.
The picture I saw showed perhaps 100,000 people peacefully demonstrating. What shocked me was the near total absence of any media coverage!
This is only one of a long list of things that are beginning to paint a picture of a country that is far from the dream of America that we all once believed in.
The only thing I know to do is to keep writing, and hoping that one day the American people realize the power we have is standing united as one, in supporting the common values and moral principals that once made this nation great.
Thanks for the encouragement in your comment on my blog.
Best regards
Doug
:wave: Dear Philosopher Mike,
Sorry I have not been around as much recently. "Life intrudes". Although recent intrusions are welcome and joyful, they don't leave as much time for reading others and commenting.
I found the following to be the best answers you gave as to how to "improve life. They are these:
I'm taking it easy coming up with any quick answers. I find that to be very wise -- not foolish a'tall!
I'm realizing that the best answer to the question of how to improve life is to just keep on living it. To keep on facing the daily challenges. To enjoy the good things. To ignore the inconsequential things. And to overcome the negative things. Time will keep on ticking, and life will go on, even after my own mortality ends, so there's nothing much to do otherwise. Again, exceedingly wise, and good for us all to consider.
Thank you. :heartbeat:
~~Blessings 'n Cheers :goodjob:
@flatpick46 - Good description: "God just flipped a switch"! I think I can relate to that.
you sound like you are in a much better place than you were even a year ago... geezzz- how long have we been reading each other anyway? at least four years i suspect! being able to look back and see where you were can help you focus on where you need/want to go. the journey is long and full of perils and at times i wish for a repentant monkey to steer me clear of mistakes and rescue me from demons (journey to west ref btw). i'm feeling the whole life is getting too short feeling as well... as if time is running out faster than i'm creating/producing. i'm becoming very protective of my time as well and i'm not sure that's a good thing. (amd look- ^ i see doug is back again- we should have a party!
i think you'll find some time for the creative part of you in the weeks ahead. it's part of the seasons of life thing and your recent season has been one of recovery.
go in joy today!
great post, dear...and so honest...btw, your facebook pic is enchanting...i like you with a lid, very rakish...
My husband and I are at the same point where you are. Our health is what it is going to be and is managable. Finances are alright and are ready to ge out and socialize more instead of sitting in our apt. afraid to go our because of the H1N1 virus. We got our flu shots and will get the H1N1 vaccien due to his health problems when it is available.
Ageing is a concern for us also and what we used to do when the body was younger and more able, simply isn't doable any longer. We are going to more 12 step meetings and even down to Dennys for a cup of coffee once a week. It is not so much socializing with other people, it is getting out away from the inside walls of our apt.
Have a good Monday.
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