September 18, 2009

  • Featured Grownups: "How to Resurrect FG"

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    I've been a member of the "Grownups With Content Worth Being Featured" blogring since August of 2005. Back when the only way to get "featured" on the front page of Xanga was to accumulate a lot of "eprops", some "older" Xangans (compared to the "youngsters" which populated the front pages at the time) had the idea to create a participatory blogring to stimulate great writing, promote cross blog traffic, and get these blogs featured. Recently, I stopped particpating in the topics, which I felt were getting a bit stale, and because I was frustrated with the lack of reciprocal participation. I'm back writing an entry today after seeing the latest prompt from the blogring's blogsite, to "Offer ideas about how to resurrect Featured Grownups". On May 16, after my last FG post, I wrote a comment detailing my frustration with the blogring. When this topic was posted a few days ago, I left another comment detailing some ways to "fix the site". Without going into a lot of what I wrote in those comments, which can be read by clicking the above links, I just want to offer an overview for my "topic post".

    1. Writer's Groups don't seem to be as popular as they once were. When Xanga's "Featured Question" appeared, I seemed to noticed the participation in blogrings dropped precipitously. I ran a participatory blogring from 2005-2008 called the Internet Island. (link to the blogsite with the topics) I stopped writing topics for that ring when the participatory entries dropped to the single digits. Other groups to which I belonged, including FG, seemed to be less popular. In order to stimulate the popularity again, I think perhaps the management of the group should make more of an attempt to 'recruit' new members who are first and foremost writers who are looking for more exposure.

    2.Do the blogring members know the intent of FG, and has it changed since the beginning? Here is the text of the blogring's intent:

    "Tired of the Featured Content selection here on Xanga? This ring is for people whose writings are WORTH the time reading, and for those who like to read them. Come on in...laugh, cry, get mad, feel better. It's all here. PLEASE be sure to subscribe to the Featured_Grownups site so that you stay up to date with blogring events and announcements! "

    For the first entry I created back in 2005 (the topic was "My Hometown" and generated 58 comments on my entry, still one of the top amounts I've ever received) Denise ("p8indme" closed down), the blogring leader, and I believe the founder, wrote:

    "When you have posted your blog, leave a comment...I will link to your site so that everyone can see your "masterpiece".WE WANT TO MAKE FEATURED CONTENT WITH THIS!!I'd like to see EVERYONE  that posts make Featured.  HERE are your instructions!1.) Check back...for updates!  2.) Go to the sites...!3.) LEAVE PROPS...!!!We can only be Grownups with Content WORTH being FEATURED if everyone works together here.  There are 253 people to date in the blogring.  All that's needed to make FC is about 40 Props usually, which means 20 comments...QUICKLY!  We can do this, and take over Featured."

    We did make Featured, both with the blog topic entry on the FG site, and for our individual posts. Many times. Most of the times I've been "featured" were because of FG posts.

    3. Membership needs to be refined. When I was running a Poetry Group on Yahoo, I belonged to a group for group leaders. It was noted that only 10-15 percent of the membership of any given group was going to be participating at any given time. Featured Grownups has 1016 members. A quick look at the recent posts of this membership shows that 132 posted in the last week, 38 in the week previous, 30 for the first week of September. 60 of the members haven't posted since August. About 100 haven't posted since May. Another 100 haven't posted since before May! A whopping 546 (that's over half the membership) haven't posted since 2008! So 200 members have posted this month, and FG has had an average of under 10 entries. This is only about 5 percent of the members.

    4. Reciprocation is a must for this group. After I got those 58 comments, I relished my participation in the FG.  I love getting comments, and I picked up more and more subscribers with each succeeding FG topic entry. I always attempt to visit and comment  each and every participant, and I update my progress in a comment on the FG post. In the last year or so, it seems that I was getting less and less comments, and as I'd visit and comment on the later posts, I'd notice that the "early posters" didn't comment on hardly any of the later entries.

    5. The topics must be "universal". There seem to have been too many "holiday" and "season" prompts. The internet is a world wide medium, and sometimes Americans seem to forget that people writing from other countries do not celebrate the same holidays or experience the seasons at the same time. It is a bear to write topical, universal writing prompts. I know from experience. I was always afraid to repeat myself when writing prompts. Interesting note. Newer FG members might like to write about "older" topics but older members would feel they were repeating themselves. Why not dispense with topics altogether some months? Maybe the management could ask members to post some of their better blogs that didn't get much exposure the first time around?

    6. Limit the topic to once a month. I don't know if this would change anything. I seem to have found the twice a month amount to be too many, but this might just be me. It seems that after thinking over the topic for a while, sometimes a week, I'd post right as a new topic was getting underway. Perhaps when the amount of participting members was larger, there was a need for two posts a month, but I like to take my time, and once a month might give more people the time to discover the prompt and to create their posts.

    I really love this group, and have volunteered, in the comment I posted on the topic earlier in the week, to help as much as I can to stimulate and "resurrect" this group. There have been four blogring leaders since I joined in 2005. We have a new "leader", Wendi (radicalramblings) as of yesterday. Reading her response to this topic makes me think that perhaps she might inject some needed "oomph" into the group. She is quite opinionated on her own blog, but from some of what she wrote about the method of formulating topics for FG, perhaps she might come up with some great prompts.

    I am still somewhat peeved by the response I got when I last posted for the group. Out of 17 posts, only 7 of the participating members left me a comment. That's less than half , and that's unacceptable to me. Especially since I wrote rather long comments and thought I was getting to know new Xangans, and friended them when the request came up on my screen. I don't consider this to be a "real" FG topic, so I won't really care about comments on this particular entry. The banner has already been passed as I write this, and I don't know how many of the few readers I have left care about reading an entry about fixing a failing blogring. However, if any of you are members of the FG, and haven't posted a topic for them in a while, let's hope that the new ones will be universal, interesting, and not rehashes of older topics on which I have already written numerous times! Personally, I'd love to see 58 comments on one of my entries again!!

Comments (18)

  • Actually, the old featured content wasn't on the front page.  It was on a side link and a few were posted on the front page in a rotating small box that was totally different than today.

  • I am missing my old hut on the internet island. I visited it the other day and it was all broken and in tatters....Nature is growing well on the Island and maybe one day we should return there.

    Well thought out response Mike, Thank you for sharing your experiences. I doubt that there is any Xangan with more blogging experience than you.

  • Great ideas!! I think that #5 is a really good point especially.

  • @TheTheologiansCafe - Dear Dan, As the king of Featured Content, I certainly defer to your memory.There have been so many changes since then. The jist is that one gave eprops to an entry, and it became "featured".

    @Featured_Grownups - Dear Wendi, I believe Denise was the owner of the blogring itself, and the site came later. She shut down her site long ago. I wonder if the "Xanga Gods" can help you to gain control of the blogring?

    @Zeal4living - Dear Jurgens, I was just over at the "Island" myself. Believe it or not, I stopped writing prompts for II when it was more active than FG is now! Perhaps I'll take your advice, and post an Internet Island topic round sometime soon!

  • Well thought out views. Amidst all the changes I'd almost forgotten about blogrings.

  • You're right on about reciprocation. I've noticed that many xangans will post a response on their own site, but not on the site of others.

    As for myself, I try to respond to all comments. At times I will get wrapped up in a dozen different projects and forget--but almost always I'll take time to respond.

    Sully

  • I still think it would be easier if more than one person ran it and divided up the work. I mentioned that over there somewhere, it went unnoticed or ignored though, I think. I like your suggestions. Hope she takes them into consideration.

  • Well I am have noticed that the average blogger who updates on a daily basis never gets the comments that we were all getting, and giving each other, even just six months ago.

  • Dear Mike,

    Perhaps I am missing the point of this blogring and its history but I have always felt blogrings, while a good idea, tend to be treated as something of a novelty by newer members.  It has always been my experience that when new members join a site where they are unknown (myself included) the quickest way to attract readers is to join the most active blogring they can find.  Once a readership is established, the use of the blogring tends to fall to the wayside.  My opinion on why is due to the amount of effort required to read and respond to others in the blogring whose writing is not really their cup of tea where as on our own blog site, we can grow our readership while weeding out those who "bore" us with trivial writings or things that do not interest us.  This is not to say there are not blogrings that don't or won't work but given my experiences, I tend to be pestimistic.

    Botolf, curmudgeon in training

  • I find such groups very clique-ish, so I stay away. 

    When I was a member of one of those groups, one of the requirements was that you must go to each contributor's site to comment.  I don't always have time for that. 

  • last few times i have seen topics for FG they have been boring to me so i haven't commented. and when you have several people writing the same basic thing it's even worse so i have not been commenting or writing any of the FG questions for the past few months. i am probably part of the problem lol but i can not seem to make myself comment on something i have no interest in. i do like to have the option to comment and would like the option to write if and when a question comes up that i am interested in.

  • Hmmm...maybe I'm not cut out for FG.  My intent for joining doesn't seem to jive with the hardcore writers.  Oh, well! 

  • I really agree with your suggestion about having a topic once a month, or even every 6 weeks.  I had exactly the same problem you mentioned; I'd think about the topic, and just as an idea struck me, the topic would change!  Also, although I would carefully leave a comment to everyone I saw on the ring, especially at first, it seemed not many other people responded in kind, so I felt a little foolish.  It seemed most people did not visit and comment and I felt as though it was an awful lot of work for very little return.  Also, since I started on Xanga, I have picked up a lot more working hours, which cut down on my housr to spend on thing like this, so  I have not participated in a very long time.  It's a shame, really; there were some very good writers and people I would never have met otherwise.  And I did pick up more subscribers that way, especially in the beginning when everyone seemed to be in the spirit of the thing.  I had thought about leaving the ring, since it didn't seem right for me to belong and not participate, but I am reluctant.  I'd LIKE to get back into it.  We'll see.

  • I think that you have some pretty good ideas. I do think that making the topics more universal would be a great idea. There is so much to write about out there!

  • You know, I think some of this evolution has been good for the group. It needs to be inclusive by nature of being a participatory group. I remember almost quitting the blogring when some of the original members began complaining about what others were posting saying it wasn't "quality" enough. I know you weren't one of those, but I think that the idea that we exist to ensure some writing that is quality actually gets featured tends to breed a bit of egotism on the part of some participants. Whereas the idea that--yeah, we want to be featured, but really, we just want to write--is a better way to go. As I recall, there was also great emphasis put on the age of the members at first (so much so that I refused to reveal mine when I joined the group). All in all, I guess I am saying that the purpose of the group does seem to have evolved a bit and with it the attitude, and not all of the evolution has been bad (not that you in any way imply that it has been).

    More than anything, perhaps the group just needs to re-establish its purpose and its goals. Wendi's eyes will definitely be able to spot some of that, and she will, no doubt, do a good job as hostess.

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