January 12, 2006

  • Socrates Cafe Topic #26: The Reason For Existence

    An instant is an eon.
    A leaf is a tree.
    A rock is a world.
    A mind is all minds.
    Forever.
    Through history.
    Through space.
    Through time.
    Forever.
    Now.


    Socrates Cafe Topic #26: Do you think we humans have a reason for existence? Do we have a purpose here on earth?

    Or, in other words, as philosophers and theologians have been questioning for millennia: "What is the Meaning of Life?"


    Consider this.

    We are here for a reason, but we aren't meant to know what it is yet.
    Humans are part of the vast network of total Universal Life. From the tiny amoeba to the great extinct dinosaurs, from the beauty and delicacy of a single rose bloom to the spectre of alien beings. "We" seem to be the only species of life who thinks, communicates, creates legacies, and plans for the future, even if, as mortals, we won't be around to experience said future. Because of our power of thought, we ask questions, and we ponder our very existence, sometimes to the extent that we seldom enjoy our existence while it lasts. Instead of living for each moment, irregardless of "time served", we catalog and organize our time, we draw up calendars and timetables, and we watch the clock. We've been doing this for almost our entire existence. No matter how many clocks we build, or schedules we keep, there is one tiny fact that forces the question of existence into the forefront of our brains night and day, prompting us to ask this question about our live's meaning. This fact, of couse, is that we all die. And no matter how long the Earth seems to last, we don't really have an answer to what comes next.
    If we didn't die at the "end" of "life", then there would doubtless be more questions we would ask ourselves. But the "big question" of existence is pondered whenever a good life ends, and we wonder what made that life so special if it is gone. What happens to that life? Does it acknowledge it's existence, or it's exit from same? Is our "stay" on our planet one of a "stage" of existences?
    Physical life, without the benefit or curse of intelligence and reasoning, can be pretty simple. Life finds a way to survive and propagate. The Universal Law of the Food Chain dictates that some life is actually dinner for other life. Most life simply exists, eats, defacates, and furthers it's species. As live evolves, some forms become extinct, and some forms multiply.
    Mankind does more than multiply, however. He reasons. And this is what has caused most of his problems in his world. As time progresses, he tries to teach future generations what he has learned, but since he dies, no amount of living really ever answers the question.
    It's almost as if man's only reason for his existence is to question it.
    The "plan for life" is Universal. The only thing we really can count on is our own understanding. No matter what we absorb or read, or to whom we listen, we are each "programmed" to trust our own perceptions. Sometimes these perceptions aren't reality, but it is our own thought processes that help us to survive our own life. Without "parents", "teachers", or "mentors", some life has not only survived, but excelled at both intelligence and understanding. The most powerful "organ of life" is our "mind". I won't physically call this the "brain" either. Our complete corporeal existence is like all the other life in the Universe. We are born, we eat, we propogate, we die. It is the mind which enters this equation and causes us to be somewhat different than all other life.
    This is not to say that penguins and mayflies don't think. Perhaps they have equally intelligent and communicative skills. They don't write books or make documentaries about their reasoning abilities and questions about existence. Mayflies live for only one day, and their complete day is preparing for their mating, after which they expire. Perhaps this mystery of life is just as haunting and as complex as our own, yet is seems simple, and simply absurd. Do they enjoy themselves? Are they happy?
    Humans could be said to be collectively happy. We have built ourselves "societies", "libraries", "living spaces", and Disneyland. We manufacture entertainment, we participate in discussion. We even develop belief systems and kill our neighbors if they don't agree with us. We have been trying to understand weather and time for as long as we have been around, with varying degrees of success.
    Every time we find an answer, more questions are revealed in it's wake.
    The "reason" for human existence is as simple as the "life" of an amoeba. There's that "eat, defecate, propogate" plan, but it is enhanced by our own sense of "self". We rarely feel "connected" to our fellow man in any "real" way however, and this also spurs the tide of questioning about our existence. The truth of the fact of life, that we die, has always caused me to ponder that this connectedness exists, but outside the plane of corporeal existence, and when we die, and pass to the Universal Plane, we do, in fact, connect with the "minds" or "souls" of all existence.
    Perhaps the rocks and mountains, besides the birds and bees, have souls as well, and when we are granted the answer, we shall not exist in the "age of reason" but in the "age of understanding". Our purpose of existence, whether or not we feel we have made a purpose in life, comes to us at the time of our death in an instant, and instantly we are granted the answer to all our questions. This is known as the Final Realization. As long as we are granted breath, however, our minds are not engineered to understand the eventual outcome.
    I've always felt that I was given an epiphany years ago concerning the purpose of life. It has fueled most of what I believe, and all of what I write. Religion and Philosophy are merely attempts to explain the unexplainable. All thought is cyclical, and the cycle ends, and begins again, at the time of death. Time and space are nonexistant in the Universal. Everywhere is nowhere, and all minds are one mind. I believe "we" retain the originality of "ourselves" , but we are finally linked with everybody else in the Universal, and we find that this feeling of "individuality" is actually rather selfish. The Universal Mind is an almost unbelievable depository of thought. The Universal Mind is the last stage of "life". I won't limit this to "human" life either. I believe that all life, and even perhaps geology and cosmic dust, are part of the Universal. The "joke" that proves God has a sense of humor is that we are not meant to understand these connections while we live our corporeal "life". The Universal is attained only after death. A few souls have tasted the succulence of the Universal MInd while on Earth, and these few have become prophets and seers. Universal Mind Theory has been around longer than "Pantheism" or "New Age Religion". It has never been given a name, and that is part of it's mystique. Most theologians would rather contemplate monotheism, and the construct of "God" as a "being" has overshadowed most of the pagan Pantheist thought processes over the centuries. As religion and political society have merged thoughout most of the world, the concept of "One God, One Nation" has permeated most of our modern ideas, and has caused a lot of trouble in paradise.
    The concept of "wondering" about our existence does end. With our death. Then we are allowed to find the answer to the question, and we join our brethren in the Universal, where the Great News is that this "reason for existence" should never have been questioned, but enjoyed. We do have a limit here on Earth, and we should spend our time better preparing for a globel understanding while we're here.


    This essay will be reprinted on "The Universal Blog".

Comments (50)

  • This is fascinating, Mike.  I'm curious what the events leading up to your epiphany about the universal were.  And also what your religious background is.  Recent events in my life have led me to basically the same conclusion about the nature of life and of God, after a lifetime of searching for a theory that makes sense.  This makes sense to me.  Do you believe that after death one has a choice between merging with the universal God consciousness or living another life? 

    My children and I have a favorite children's book called "The Mountains of Tibet," In which a man lives his entire life in a beautiful valley in Tibet.  AFter his death he is given a choice, of merging with the universal that some call heaven, or of another life.  He chooses another life and then the story is all about his choosing from the millions of possibilities until at last, he has chosen a life almost identical to the one he just lived.

    Another great post from you.  :sunny:

  • i'm here to create things ... i'm certain about this

  • Hi Mike...Mia Lucia here ,and reading as a cohost for Socrates Cafe...... my dear fellow am I glad you have chosen to participate! I suppose if we didn't die we might not give so much thought to the meaning of life...we might think of it like water and air,,,something that just is,,,,Two thoughts you have expressed caught my attention....the first is :
    "The "reason" for human existence is as simple as the "life" of an amoeba. There's that "eat, defecate, propogate" plan, but it is enhanced by our own sense of "self".
    .Do we as a result of this sense of self assign meaning to our existence or do we become purposeful for other reasons?
    The second is what you describe as the Universal Mind theory . It is as you describe it quite appealing but it raises one question.for me...So much of our hunan expereince seems to revolve around our being seperate from the whole..being unique individuals....why would we expereince this sense of self if in fact we are part of a whole...how ddoes our indivduality enhance the whole?..///Again Thank you for sharing these most interesting thoughts:)

  • i am never sure about god. i keep flipflopping on the entire subject. i know there is a god cause i exist. i think i love i do all these things and i seem to stay the same person everytime i wake up. so i assume that someone wanted me to be in this capsule that i'm in. i beleive i have power to choose my destiny to a certain extent. i can't be president of the united states now can i? there is some limit. but i mostly chooose my destiny. yes.
    i do think that animals plan for the future though they may not know how to write and make memoirs and that type of thing. why else would an animal store fat for winter. gather for winter. etc. they do know that tomorrow comes and plan accordingly... birds fly south. lol it all has to do with winter. perhaps i should prepare for my winter blues this way instead of doing nothing and just expecting it will come.

  • i am never sure about god. i keep flipflopping on the entire subject. i know there is a god cause i exist. i think i love i do all these things and i seem to stay the same person everytime i wake up. so i assume that someone wanted me to be in this capsule that i'm in. i beleive i have power to choose my destiny to a certain extent. i can't be president of the united states now can i? there is some limit. but i mostly chooose my destiny. yes.
    i do think that animals plan for the future though they may not know how to write and make memoirs and that type of thing. why else would an animal store fat for winter. gather for winter. etc. they do know that tomorrow comes and plan accordingly... birds fly south. lol it all has to do with winter. perhaps i should prepare for my winter blues this way instead of doing nothing and just expecting it will come.

  • Hiya Mike! :wave:

    I love reading your blog, and today is no exception. :coolman:

    But I do have to say, "poor, poor mayfly!" I mean, I guess living for one day would be better than never being alive... but to only mate once? Sad indeed.

    Embrace Life and experience the soul of it all - that which inspires... breaths life into us. To live - could this be the meaning of life?

    BE blessed!
    Steve

  • Michael -- I'm still confused..should I take my banner down???? I'm worried --

    also - looking forward to new island assignment

  • I really liked what you wrote.   I believe all questions will be answered on our death.   I think I could read your entry several times and I still find many things to ponder.  

  • Good stuff, Mike!  Like you, I know that there is no time, in reality.  This was really a thorough article, and well thought-out.  The Universal Mind might, in some way, be a way of describing what is mentioned in the Bible where it says that, in heaven, "we will know, even as we are known".

    Tell me something, exactly how do you get/find the song bytes for your site?  I have been trying to figure this out.

    Take care, Mike!  --  John

  • We've discoursed on this a little bit before.  I pretty much agree.  What you call Universal Mind I call One and All and Way - it's my own version of the "panentheism" I stole and changed from Eckhart, which I see as a mix between monotheism and pantheism somehow.  Every name we give our reality, each time we Create anything, is a gift and a metaphor.  As long as we don't mistake one Religion or one View as the way it really Is, I think we'll be okay.  Our individual contributions are such blessings (and I believe it's the Choice and the joy of each epiphany that is the reason God created us), but the Universal Mind is bigger than us all.  Thanks

  • Great post. I do have a question for you. You say that "Humans could be said to be collectively happy." Are you thinking globally when you say that? Just because there are societies, libraries and disneyland, such as in the US, does that mean we are ALL happy? In my travels (in my short life of 21 years) I've seen more angst than happiness. And so my question is this: Can humans without true knowledge of their purpose achieve true happiness? Or would there always be some doubt, some angst in the back of their minds? I'm thinking about funerals when I ask this last question. Is it necessary to know the answers to be happy?

  • PS: I posted the answers to your questions in my comment section. Thanks for taking the time to read and ask questions.

  • :goodjob:great post!:yes:

    Christine

  • Your philosophy is very grounding. Thanks for sharing it!

  • Hi Mike, I lost my subscription to your site somehow. I like your thoughts on the Socrates Cafe topic.

  • :) :) :) :) :) ahhh
    I really love ur train of thought
    I think we r all brought on life to play a part
    and for a purpose
    even if it is to make a difference in someone else's life
    thats why I LOVE THE ISLAND
    I love it i love it
    and am so honored to be in it
    working on my book right now its 30 pages
    getting into some deep stuff
    wish me luck :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat:
    I AM HERE to live, love, laugh and change lives
    with words, art and HAPPINESS given to all, and also thru MUSIC and happiness
    I love ya babe
    your POSTS inspire me
    like nothing else
    :sunny: :goodjob:
    sending you sun for a great weekend
    :)
    you definitely and everyone else in the island has touched my life

  • :) thanks for the input!:sunny:Have a great day!:wink:

  • Hello Mike.  Sorry that I haven't been around this week.  I have been sick.  This was a fascinating post.  It made realize something that I guess I have known for a long time and not really thought about.  I am not afraid of death.  I don't know why as it scares so many people.  To me if it is the end then so be it.  If it is only a new beginning then good I get to try this again and do it right this time.  If it is a movement into another realm then great cause I love to travel.  LOL  I need to think on this a bit.

    Hope that you have a wonderful day.

    Kat

  • I was more than happy to find this website. I need to to thank
    you for ones time for this particularly fantastic read!!
    I definitely savored every little bit of it and
    I have you saved to fav to check out new information on your web site.

  • It's going to be finish of mine day, except before end
    I am reading this wonderful piece of writing to increase my experience.

  • Please let me know if you're looking for a writer
    for your blog. You have some really great posts and I believe I would be a good
    asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I'd love to write
    some articles for your blog in exchange for a link back
    to mine. Please blast me an e-mail if interested. Kudos!

  • What's up, constantly i used to check web site posts here early in the daylight,
    for the reason that i love to find out more and more.

  • Hi there! This is my first visit to your blog! We are
    a team of volunteers and starting a new initiative in a community in the same
    niche. Your blog provided us valuable information to work on. You have done a wonderful job!

  • Great information. Lucky me I discovered your site by accident (stumbleupon).
    I have book marked it for later!

  • WOW just what I was searching for. Came here by searching
    for cialis pharmacy petraeus

  • Its such as you read my thoughts! You seem to grasp a lot about this,
    like you wrote the e-book in it or something. I believe that you simply can do with a few % to power the message house a little bit,
    however instead of that, that is great blog. An excellent read.
    I'll certainly be back.

  • Good article. I am experiencing many of these issues as well..

  • I have been exploring for a little bit for any high quality
    articles or blog posts in this kind of area . Exploring in Yahoo I finally stumbled upon this site.

    Reading this info So i am glad to exhibit that I have a
    very excellent uncanny feeling I discovered just what I needed.

    I so much surely will make sure to don?t fail to remember this website and provides it a look regularly.

  • Hi there, I found your site by the use of Google even as
    looking for a comparable topic, your website came up, it appears to
    be like good. I have bookmarked it in my google bookmarks.

    Hi there, simply become aware of your blog thru Google, and found that it's really informative.
    I am going to be careful for brussels. I'll appreciate
    when you proceed this in future. A lot of people can be benefited from your
    writing. Cheers!

  • There's definately a great deal to learn about this subject.
    I like all the points you have made.

  • These are actually great ideas in regarding blogging. You have touched some good points
    here. Any way keep up wrinting.

  • It's amazing to visit this website and reading the views
    off all mates about this piece of writing, while I am also zealous
    of getting familiarity.

  • I every time spent my half an hour to read this blog's articles or reviews all the time along with a mug of
    coffee.

  • What i don't understood is in reality how you're not really
    a lot more smartly-favored than you might be now. You're so intelligent.
    You realize thus significantly in terms of this
    matter, produced me for my part consider it from so many various angles.
    Its like women and men don't seem to be interested except it is something to do with Lady gaga!
    Your own stuffs excellent. All the time care for it up!

  • Hello to every one, the contents existing at
    this web site are really remarkable for people experience, well, keep up the good work
    fellows.

  • We are a group of volunteers and starting a brand new scheme
    in our community. Your website provided us with valuable information to work on. You've
    done a formidable process and our whole group can be grateful to you.

  • Wow, this piece of writing is good, my younger sister is analyzing these things,
    so I am going to convey her.

  • I visited multiple sites however the audio feature for audio songs existing at this web page is genuinely wonderful.

  • Hi there I am so glad I found your webpage, I really found you by error, while I
    was looking on Aol for something else, Nonetheless I am here now and would just like to
    say many thanks for a remarkable post and a all round enjoyable blog (I also love the theme/design), I don't
    have time to go through it all at the moment but I have saved it and also included
    your RSS feeds, so when I have time I will be back to read much more, Please do keep up the fantastic work.

  • Hi there! I could have sworn I've been to this blog before but
    after checking through some of the post I realized it's new to me.
    Anyhow, I'm definitely glad I found it and I'll be bookmarking and checking back frequently!

  • Whats up very nice web site!! Guy .. Excellent .. Wonderful ..
    I'll bookmark your blog and take the feeds additionally?
    I am satisfied to seek out so many helpful information right here within the publish, we'd like
    develop more strategies on this regard, thank you for sharing.
    . . . . .

  • Right now it appears like WordPress is the top blogging platform available
    right now. (from what I've read) Is that what you are using
    on your blog?

  • What i don't realize is if truth be told how you're now not really a lot more neatly-preferred than you might be now.
    You're so intelligent. You recognize thus significantly in the case of this topic, produced me individually imagine it from a lot of numerous angles.
    Its like women and men are not interested until it's one
    thing to accomplish with Lady gaga! Your individual stuffs excellent.
    All the time care for it up!

  • I'm very happy to discover this web site. I wanted to thank you for ones time due to this wonderful read!!
    I definitely loved every little bit of it and i also have you book marked to see new things on your web site.

  • I like the helpful information you provide in your articles.
    I'll bookmark your blog and check again here regularly.
    I'm quite sure I'll learn many new stuff right here!
    Good luck for the next!

  • Hi there! Do you use Twitter? I'd like to follow
    you if that would be okay. I'm absolutely enjoying your blog annd look
    forward to new updates.

  • I could not resist commenting. Very well written!

  • If you would like to obtain much from this paragraph then you hzve tto apply
    these techniques to your won webpage.

  • Write more, thats all I have to say. Literally, it seems as though you
    relied on the video to make your point. You clearly know what youre talking about, why throw away your intelligence
    on just posting videos too your weblog when you could be giving us somkething
    informative to read?

  • Heya i'm for thee first time here. I came across this board and I find It truly useful & it helped
    me out much. I am hoping to offer sometbing again and help othrrs such ass
    you aided me.

Post a Comment

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Categories